The Intersection of AI & Biohacking

Might 20, 2023

From podcast: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/podcast/tim-gray-2-podcast/

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:01:18] Podcast Sponsors

[00:06:08] Who’s Tim Grey?

[00:19:07] Tim’s every day routine

[00:27:08] Tim’s health routine

[00:29:11] Podcast Sponsors

[00:33:16] cont. Tim’s health routine

[00:36:11] Fascinating bio-hacking gadgets

[00:57:00] Food plan and Dietary supplements

[01:09:24] Well being Optimisation Summit

[01:11:21] Use of AI in well being optimization

[01:12:07] Closing the Podcast

[01:13:31] Upcoming Occasion

[01:14:55] Finish of Podcast

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Ben: Alright, Tim. That is going to be enjoyable. Final time, we went everywhere in the map on all of the loopy biohacks, and routines, and funky stuff you are as much as, and among the insider stuff you get entry to earlier than all people else does. So, I do know so much has occurred previously yr. I am stoked. I at all times stay up for speaking to you. And, I do know that some individuals won’t have identical to dropped their podcast participant and gone again and hearken to the first episode that we did final yr. So, in case individuals do not know who you might be, get give sort of just like the cliff notes of your backstory and the way you bought into all this.

Tim: Mainly, 10 years in the past, 12 years in the past, I acquired sick. Medical doctors could not assist me. And, that is I used to be occurring for boards and making an attempt all these completely different loopy stuff for my well being as a result of medical doctors could not assist me. All of the checks got here again regular and I simply needed to begin digging.

Ben: What had been you sick with? What was it? Or, I imply what had been the signs?

Tim: Yeah. Properly, I used to be 200-mile an hour enterprise man. I used to be working a few corporations. I used to be waking up at, you understand, 8 o’clock, driving into the workplace, working by way of until 8 or 9 o’clock at night time, consuming, leaping into mattress, wash, rinse, and repeat. So, I believed I used to be simply regular human. I did not notice this was–

Ben: #crushinglife.

Tim: Yeah, certainly. Certainly. And, I began getting persistent fatigue, and bloating, and thrush in my mouth, and a complete load of various issues, which ended up exploding into some extent the place I acquired again from a 16-hour flight from Bali, and I acquired caught with kidney stones within the hospital. 

Ben: Oh, geez.

Tim: Yeah. So, principally, they did not know why I used to be forming kidney stones. They stated it was one thing I needed to stay with for all times. And, consequently, I spent a complete yr just about stressed that I used to be going to be peeing one other considered one of this stuff out anytime quickly, which is fairly painful.

Ben: How lengthy does it take to pee out a kidney stone?

Tim: Actually, it is dependent upon how huge it’s and the way lengthy it is taken you to kind it. The issue was that I did not pee it out. It is caught in my ureter for 3 days, and it appears like my knife is reducing you open from the within out. They do say, and I am unable to clearly communicate from expertise, nevertheless it’s on a par with giving delivery, if not worse. And so, I would not want it for anybody, to be fairly sincere.

Ben: I’ve heard it is worse than a gun wound. And, my apologies to all the ladies on the market who’re about to or have given delivery. Really, not too long ago, simply acquired finished with a podcast with this man, Dr. Nathan Riley, who’s like a holistic OB-GYN. You realize, who describes it as like this sacred orgasmic expertise the place you are purported to embrace among the struggling and breathe by way of. I even have seen some information. I feel perhaps it was a man who does Freakonomics, who did say that gunshot wounds and a few these medical circumstances, particularly kidney stones and gallbladder assaults, are extra painful than giving delivery. You realize, my full respect to all the ladies on the market. However, I feel there are some issues which are extra painful relying on the way you method them, and what your breathwork ways are, and whether or not or not you bought the epidural. 

However, I acquired to let you know, Tim, to not derail your story an excessive amount of right here, I wish to get again into it. I truly had a gallbladder, like a previous a gallbladder stone. I suppose you’d name it, you understand, these mineral depositions within the gallbladder. And, this was proper once I was like on the tail finish of experimenting with consuming a complete bunch of fat. I had interviewed the man — he is the man who wrote just like the croissant weight loss plan and the wine weight loss plan, and we did a complete interview about all of the helpful fatty acids in pastured pork. And so, I believed, “I will attempt to experiment with this.” And, for like every week, I used to be consuming pork chops, and bacon, and you understand all method. Yeah, what else was that? There’s pork stomach. I had pork ribs. And, I used to be even utilizing this particular pork fats that he despatched. And, like every week into this, we’re sitting on the dinner desk, and unexpectedly, I really feel like this intense ache like radiating by way of my rib cage. I stood up from the dinner desk, made it midway down the hallway, dropped to my knees, belly-crawled into the lavatory, and almost handed out on the lavatory flooring. 

And, I began doing breathwork. Like, I used to be I began doing field respiratory. Like, 4 counting, 4 depend, maintain; 4 depend out, 4 depend maintain. And, simply as like standing outdoors the lavatory door with the automobile keys, able to take me to the hospital, I am like, “Wait, wait, wait. I will breathe by way of this.” However, it was just like the sort of ache the place you sort of want you had been useless. After which, after quarter-hour, I stood up. I used the restroom. It went away. And, inside like a half hour, I used to be effective. It was probably the most horrific ache ever. And, I am unable to think about having one thing like that additionally taking place in in your ureter with a kidney stone. However, I can solely think about.

Tim: Oh, it is bonkers, yeah. It is bonkers. Completely, loopy, yeah. Really, speaking about your gallbladder, have you will have you finished a liver flush earlier than? Or, what do you concentrate on the liver flushes? 

Ben: Oh, yeah. You imply like the place you are doing an olive oil, lemon juice, ghee. You realize, Dr, Chris Shade at Quicksilver, he’ll even throw in like a few of his liver sauce and stuff like that. I’ve finished these flushes earlier than, and also you definitely wind up with a ton of what look like like small, white, spherical mineral depositions in the bathroom if you use the restroom. As if the physique truly is flushing out the gallbladder. 

I do not know if there’s quite a lot of deep science behind these liver and gallbladder flushes. However, I feel that if you may get by way of the actual fact that you’ll should be close to a rest room, which I imply like every guys finished like a colonoscopy process is sort of used to that in the future the place you are simply, yeah, you are just about tied to the bathroom. However, until you are severely dehydrated or mineral depleted, I do not assume it’ll damage you. I’d think about there’s most likely much less intense methods to look after the liver and the gallbladder. However, I suppose when you’ve put it by way of the wringer, these flushes might be useful. However, yeah, you bought to be ready to be associates with the porcelain god for some time.

Tim: Oh, yeah. So, final time I did it — and there is not quite a lot of science supporting it, however I do discover that it is incredible. And, by way of bowel actions for days and days afterwards, it is so much higher. However, I did 17 runs to the bathroom final time. I did one 17. It was fairly intense stuff, yeah. However, I imply I did get — I cleared out quite a lot of…

Ben: I can simply think about you protecting observe like a prisoner in a cell with the little hash marks on the wall by the bathroom; 12, 13, 14. 

Tim: I had a Submit-it be aware on the bathe curtain. 

Ben: Alright. So, you had these kidney stones. You had all these points.

Tim: Yeah. And, all of the medical doctors would prescribe me as they stated, “Oh, you’ve got most likely acquired a kidney an infection,” and this and that. And, “Take antibiotics.” So, I used to be taking antibiotics for 3 months principally. And, after that, I wasn’t digesting meals fairly effectively. My power dropped to the bottom. I acquired mind fog. I began getting tendonitis as a result of they’d put me on ciprofloxacin, which is a has a black field warning and fairly dangerous for lots of people.

Ben: That is just like the antibiotic that may trigger tendon rupture.

Tim: Yep. It was a slippery slope. And, the extra medical doctors I noticed, the extra that they only prescribed me stuff. And, in the future, I went into the medical doctors and I stated to them, “What’s unsuitable with me?” And, he struck your soul and stated, “Tim, we will not discover something unsuitable,” and I knew there was. So, you understand, sort of at that time began researching boards. And, once more, this was round 2010, one thing like that.

Ben: Any technology’s ears listening in have an enormous query mark over their head if you say boards, however I feel Reddit. Just about. Like, you understand, it is the very best place to go for medical recommendation, proper? The remark part of a weblog, or boards, or presumably the remark part on a YouTube video, proper? 

Tim: Yeah. And, this was actually earlier than, you or Dave had been doing something on content material and there have been hardly any useful medical doctors. Instagram wasn’t this huge factor filled with influences, or giving the very best well being recommendation on their posts and stuff. So, you needed to actually dig into analysis and boards and have a look at what individuals had been commenting on. So, I simply saved on digging. I imply, clearly, it got here round that I had mercury poisoning on the time from the quantity of [00:14:50]____  fillings I had, and the quantity of sushi I used to be consuming, and all the way down to my genetics. I’ve a double SNP on the MTHFR and MTR off. So, I am not an excellent methylator. 

So, the medical doctors clearly do not take a look at for mercury. They do not take a look at for B-12 deficiencies. They do not take a look at for numerous different issues, like reminiscent of candida ranges and all this stuff. So, after all, what they had been simply checking for had been exhibiting okay. However, what the useful medical doctors lately verify for had been exhibiting truly, there’s a complete load of stuff of black. So, actually, I simply sort of took it into my very own fingers and began researching. 

And, you understand, afterward, I heard about bulletproof espresso and biohacking. After which, the areas clearly erupted since then. So, it was only a journey of studying and testing stuff on myself. After which, clearly, it advanced to change into a meet-up, after which onto the Well being Optimisation Summit, the place I sort of, you understand, share the entire cool issues I’ve discovered, and the entire audio system and authors from around the globe, and simply proceed to share the data I’ve discovered.

Ben: When did you begin on the summit? 

Tim: The primary one was in 2019, pre-COVID. 

Ben: Okay.

Tim: However, we had meet up since 2017. So, we have had like 16 or 17 meetups.

Ben: Good timing on that. Begin placing all of your power into the convention earlier than COVID hits, yeah. However, by the way in which, the boards factor is humorous that you just convey that up. As a result of, I do not know if I advised you this earlier than. However, I just about like constructed my enterprise early on the day once I was first changing into like an web influencer, or beginning on-line teaching stuff like that, no matter you wish to name it, on boards. 

Like, I had like Friday Discussion board day, the place for 8 hours a day, I used to be on like, each — in my case, this was for the triathlon market. Each endurance discussion board, triathlon discussion board, marathoner discussion board, lengthy distance swimming, or open water swimming discussion board, all I’d do all Friday was go in and reply to individuals’s questions. Virtually like an AMA. And, it wasn’t like self-promotional or something. 

I used to be simply principally answering questions and making an attempt to be useful. However, because the boards are structured, you will have like a bio with the clickable hyperlink. So, in my bio, I’d at all times say, “Hey, wish to study extra? Need to get teaching for me?” Et cetera.  After which, I’ve a hyperlink again to my teaching web site and my coaching plans. And this was all identical to early on nearly sort of like search engine optimization again linking. Besides, even then, the various search engines did not scrape boards that effectively. So, individuals would not essentially discover you on a search engine, however they’d discover you by being a member of those boards. So, actually, like each Friday for, gosh, like two years, all I’d do all the day was reply questions on boards. And, it truly labored. Like, again then, it was good technique.

Tim: Sure. I imply, it was an excellent — I truly assume that I am beginning to return to utilizing boards once more in Remedy Zone and Reddit and see what persons are speaking about. As a result of it is typically not policed in the identical means and you’ll typically discover out juicy issues which have been blocked somewhere else. I truly fairly get pleasure from going again to that space now. However, you understand, for the final 5 or 6 years, it is just about been PubMed, or analysis websites, or different authors’ books, and effectively you understand the drill.

Ben: You realize, I am curious for you from like a biohacking or health or a well being standpoint. Whenever you’re going all through your day, and also you’re getting uncovered to all these new concepts, ways, instruments, books, et cetera, what’s it truly appears like for you? So far as is the way you’re structuring your day to have the ability to analysis or experiment with, or attempt quite a lot of these items. Or, you identical to full-time doing that, or are you writing, or what’s your precise every day routine appear like on the subject of having the ability to discover these items?

Tim: I am a full-time biohacker lately. And, that includes testing gadgets, assembly audio system, hanging out with audio system, and touring around the globe and testing various things actually. That is just about my full-time job lately. A part of it’s, clearly, organizing audio system and types with the convention, however actually is testing this. So, my day is fairly structured more often than not. I do have a few days every week the place it is no construction and it is principally simply free circulate to be in circulate state. 

However, usually, you understand, I work out very first thing within the morning. And, one of many issues that I’ve applied that is made me a lot extra productive and happier is definitely implementing “The Morning Miracles.” And, I feel I discussed them briefly on our final podcast…

Ben: Is that Hal Elrod?

Tim: It is principally primarily based on a ebook with “The Morning Miracles.” And, it is about silence affirmations, visualizations, workouts, and studying. And, you sit down and principally meditate, learn, train. And, earlier than anything, you awake, you hydrate, or do no matter, you do your morning miracles, which units you up for the entire day each day. And, that is a non-negotiable. And, I feel by way of visualizations, as you understand how highly effective they’re; affirmations, by way of how they can assist you develop a lot; silence, clearly, as a aware of meditation, which the place I mirror on the day before today to be higher. However, actually, that is the inspiration of my day. With out query and with out exception. And, after that, as an illustration, the day is structured as an illustration, it is my time within the morning to check out gadgets, to do no matter I want earlier than the calls begin. Like, sort of 10:00 or 11:00 within the morning. After which, it calls by way of until 2 o’clock. After which, I head down time within the afternoon.

So, I do change this from daily, you understand, relying on the day. However actually, quite a lot of my day is devoted to testing, utilizing completely different biohacks lately.

Ben: Yeah, yeah. I feel “The Morning Miracles,” I feel it is Hal Elrod is the ebook. And, in this system, I will hunt it down and put it within the shownotes for folk. However, I am curious simply so far as that “Morning Miracles,” the silence piece. What’s that truly appear like? Are you identical to sitting quietly with the eyes closed. And, if that’s the case, for the way lengthy?

Tim: This can be a nice query. Really, as a result of I’ve at all times had bother meditating. I’ve at all times been, you understand, 200 miles an hour, not wanting to take a seat nonetheless, at all times wanting to realize stuff. And, I attempted the Sensate system, which I nonetheless use on occasion nevertheless it was a staple for me. As a result of I discovered that the Sensate meditation system helped me maintain myself accountable to doing it with a tool.

Ben: Describe that to individuals what the Sensate is.

Tim: So, it is the Sensate. It is like a teardrop-shaped system, which you truly put in your chest in your breastbone. And, it pulses, vibrates in your chest in time with the music or the sounds that can assist you get right into a deep meditative state. It is a vagus nerve stimulation system as effectively. So, it is actually — consider it as a purring cat in your chest when you’re meditating, which actually takes you out of the thoughts house, places you into the kinesthetic place, and lets you distance your self from the surface world. So, for me, that basically guided me into being extra of a meditator. However, I nonetheless relied on a tool. Once I learn “The Morning Miracles,” nevertheless, it stated silence. So, I’d sit there and I’d problem myself to 10 minutes of silence, nothing. Like, actually, nothing. No matter got here up, got here up. 

However, as I did this increasingly, and I compelled myself to do that, as an alternative of meditation, silence is a key differentiator with it. As a result of I did not care what got here up. And, I discovered ultimately the extra that I did it, the extra my mind regarded for issues that I had finished the day before today the place I may have been a greater human. Whether or not it may have been serving to somebody higher, how I may have worded one thing higher to somebody, you understand, if one thing triggered me, mirror on that and ask myself, “Why did I react in that means?” So, each day, I am self-correcting from the day before today in my 10-minute silence. So, that is actually about self-growth and understanding issues that the place I may have been higher, easy methods to be higher. And, I discovered since then I have been a self-correcting machine and labored by way of years of stuff very, in a short time simply from a 10-minute reflection.

Ben: That is attention-grabbing. Seems like nearly unintentionally, it shifts you right into a state of what you understand many historical philosophers would have known as study or self-examination even with out essentially which means to take action. Should you let your ideas fall again into the day before today’s failures, errors, classes discovered, et cetera, I nonetheless assume self-examination, which I do on the finish of the day by taking part in the day again like a film in my thoughts. Usually, as I am falling asleep, or generally with my household throughout night meditation. It is a great solution to keep up a correspondence with that idea of how you reside your day is how you reside your life. As a result of it is fairly simple to get into this like Groundhog Day state of affairs, the place you are not likely bettering, not studying out of your failures, not rising as an individual. However, when you’ve carved out a sure time of day, to really measure that so that may be managed, I feel it is an unbelievable software.

And, curiously, I feel it was Dr. Peter Martone, who’s like this sleep specialist, who I had on my podcast. He taught me that when you’re making an attempt to go to sleep or making an attempt to calm down, when you have interaction in forward-thinking, like planning what you are going to do, perhaps if you get it from a nap, or the following day, or dialog you are going to have, or an e mail that you’ll write, or no matter, you truly see a shift in electrical and blood circulate exercise of the frontal cortex the place you sort of host quite a lot of your ruminating ideas. And, it can enhance sleep latency or disrupt napping patterns or rest. However, the exact opposite happens when you drive your self to as an alternative assume again to — and you can begin with quite simple issues. Like, “What I’ve for breakfast this morning?” And, “What was the very first thing I did once I acquired up?” After which, perhaps, “What did I’ve for dinner final night time? What was my exercise yesterday? Who did I speak to?” And, you practice your mind to begin to shift into the previous, it is truly an unbelievable solution to calm down you. 

As a result of I imply, Tim, you’ve got most likely seen like these gadgets. I feel there’s one known as the Ebb, E-B-B. That you just actually put on round your head and it circulates chilly water close to the brow to apparently vasoconstrict and trigger blood circulate to shift away from that frontal cortex. And, it is attention-grabbing as a result of it does have that very same stress-free impact. Sadly, it is tough to calm down with this large headset on. However, this concept of previous processing versus future processing is one thing I discover actually attention-grabbing.

Tim: They are saying that — nevertheless it’s vital to visualise the place you wish to go. However, it is also vital to visualise and work by way of the place you’ve got been. And, I feel, its empowerment, against most individuals. And, I’ve put myself on this class for my just about my complete lifetime of working round a lot, doing a lot stuff, and really, as an alternative of being, doing. And, we’re human beings. And, I feel if you truly begin reflecting on the issues that set off you, you’ll be able to truly craft them or alter them. So, I feel it is a actually — by way of making me develop up as a human and to work by way of issues and make my relationships higher and my well being, my psychological well being, which suggests your bodily well being clearly catches up with that as effectively; it has been most likely the most important recreation changer of my final two years. To be fairly sincere.

Ben: Yeah, wonderful. And, that Sensate system by the way in which, you talked about I’ve messed round that factor slightly bit. It truly works remarkably effectively, particularly when you do wish to like silence ruminating ideas as a result of it is vibrating. You describe like a cat purring in your chest, which is an ideal analogy as a result of that is what it appears like. It is tremendous stress-free. After which, I do not know if this has crossed your thoughts, Tim. However, I believed, effectively, gosh, if haptic sensations on the chest lull me right into a state of rest, what if I had been to mix there’s one thing just like the Apollo, which is like haptic sensation on your wrist or your ankle. And, generally, once I wish to try, you understand, in the course of the day for slightly nap or a siesta, I will put that Sensate on my chest and the Apollo on considered one of my ankles or on my wrist, and also you sort of get the double vibratory sensation, it appears to work extremely effectively. 

Tim: That claims attention-grabbing stimulus of like, as an illustration, if somebody’s touching in your shoulder, you’ll be able to’t deal with the sensation in your hand.

Ben: Yeah.

Tim: So, it’ll be actually attention-grabbing how your mind’s going to flick between the 2 issues. And, most likely confuse you and actually make you calm. It is actually attention-grabbing. I’ve to attempt that.

Ben: Yeah, it’s. I imply, it is that very same idea of like the blokes at Human Storage over in L.A. They used to do therapeutic massage on the within of your mouth. The place they actually go in with rubber gloves, and it was extremely uncomfortable and painful. However, they at all times had like two or three therapists engaged on you. So, considered one of them was doing that, the opposite could be like rubbing your head, and one other could be engaged on the ft. And, you are truly in a position to tolerate much more ache with that sort of distractibility. So, there’s undoubtedly one thing to it.

Hey, you stated that you’ve a silence and the meditation, the affirmations as part of this miracle mornings. After which, there have been two others one was train. What was the final one?

Tim: Affirmations, silence, visualizations. 

Ben: That is proper.

Tim: And studying.

Ben: Visualization, studying, okay. What is the health routine search for you proper now?

Tim: As a result of I have been touring a lot, I discovered it very onerous to be very in step with gyms, and issues like that. I discover that I wish to maintain it constant. So, what I have been doing is utilizing physique weight at house, or once I met my different — effectively, both of my houses. Which it evolves on pull-ups, press-ups, sandbags, kettlebells, Roman chair as a result of I am engaged on balancing my hips and energy on the decrease facet, and protecting it actually gentle and easy to be fairly sincere. The principle purpose was this I used to be pushing it very, very, very onerous within the gymnasium. And, I went from 67 kilos to 75 kilos fairly rapidly, which when clearly my urge for food went up. I felt like I used to be an consuming machine. And, I used to be pushing myself a bit too onerous. And, being an ectomorph, placing on weight, and consuming is the place you, as a fellow ectomorph, how a lot it’s a must to eat to placed on a substantial weight.

Ben: Quite a bit. I acquired to exceed 4,000 energy a day to realize weight. 

Tim: Sure. I used to be precisely the identical. And, I truly had a fairly huge jaw surgical procedure with the organic dentist, Dr. Dom. I feel he may need been in your podcast.

Ben: Oh, yeah.

Tim: And, I had fairly an enormous jaw surgical procedure finished. And so, I needed to cease understanding and it took six weeks for it to heal, truly, simply because my physique did not fairly wish to. So, I sort of backed off with the gymnasium. I wanted to again off with the consuming. And now, since then, I’ve simply been ticking over and letting my physique catch again up earlier than pushing it once more. 

So, I feel the most important concern that I discover with biohackers or questions I get from my followers is that, quite a lot of them do not truly wish to work out. They only need you understand the consequence, however they do not wish to put their work in. And, I feel what I discovered works effectively for me once I’m touring or have a heavy workload reminiscent of earlier than a convention, is having issues that you just journey over close to you. Such because the pull-up bar between the lounge and kitchen, or a rebounder subsequent to your standing desk, which is simply down right here. You realize, the kettlebells that are three ft away, so I can choose up and do some.

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Earlier this yr, I made a reasonably large assertion that I feel that on the subject of NAD, Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide, this molecule with nice mobile protecting and anti-aging properties. With regards to the bioavailability of it, I feel that nothing beats from what I’ve seen NAD3. A model of NAD that is very bioavailable, tough to seek out. However, there is a new product that has added different confirmed longevity compounds. Specifically, spermidine, niacinamide, and resveratrol to the NAD3, making it probably the most full and efficacious NAD complement that I feel exists anyplace. And, it is known as BioStack NAD Regen, made by BioStack Labs. NAD Regen, like regeneration. Now, that is fairly spectacular stuff. I am popping three each morning proper now. I am additionally taking their Cell Defend. So, these two together give an unlimited age reversal, longevity, anti-aging punch. Whenever you get a 3-month provide of these things, they are going to ship you a fourth bottle completely free. So, you are getting a bottle utterly free. You go to BioStackLabs.com/Ben. BioStack, B-I-O-S-T-A-C-Okay Labs.com/Ben, if you wish to do this stuff out. So, once more, it is known as N-A-D Regen. 

Okay. So, the most important criticism, a minimum of considered one of them, I get from my shoppers who’re enterprise homeowners, is they cannot get their staff enthusiastic about bettering their well being. It is no shock after they have, you understand, company wellness initiative that includes like sticking a fruit bowl and a few uncooked almonds within the break room, or some generic health app that is boring, and provides simply one other factor to an worker’s already lengthy to-do checklist. 

So, I stepped again. I checked out company wellness applications from a contemporary angle. Like, what if we may do diet, health, psychological well being, sleep, productiveness, make it enjoyable, make it thrilling, make it all-inclusive, make it simple to achieve. Incorporate all the newest science and the cool biohacks with out breaking the financial institution, and have a workforce of coaches to customise a company wellness program to the precise wants of a company’s workforce. So, they do all of the work. That means, my coaches do all of the work. All it’s a must to do is say sure to bettering the well being of your staff. After which, we are available. We deal with every thing. You get to take a seat again and watch morale productiveness and engagement enhance, when you get an enormous workforce of glad and wholesome staff. To study extra about my company wellness applications, and the way they will make your organization a greater, and finally, a extra profitable place to work, you’ll be able to go to BenGreenfieldCoaching.com. That is BenGreenfieldCoaching.com. Test it out. 

For these of you now watching the video model, I will hyperlink to at BenGreenfieldLife.com/TimGray2. You may see among the stuff littering Tim’s room. And, a lot of the chagrin of my spouse, Tim, I am the identical. There’s like a yoga swing hanging above the eating room desk upstairs. I’ve one — I am making an attempt to get my neck stronger. So, proper now, I’ve a kind of iron neck gadgets completely proper on the entrance to the steps taking place from our bed room. So, I simply remembered to do it once I stroll by it. There’s a minimum of three completely different rooms which have a kettlebell on the ground, couple extra with foam rollers. Like, you actually cannot be in any room of the home with out one thing to both do deep tissue work, or some sort of fast health drill. So, I feel it is an unbelievable hack. Until, you reside with a hyper-clean particular person. Wherein case, you may want slightly little bit of spousal or marriage or relationship counseling. However, nonetheless, it truly is a fairly good trick. 

I am curious for you. Particularly with the summit and, you understand, your public-facing picture is a biohacker. Should you most likely slightly bit like me, get sure like gadgets and new health hacks and devices despatched your means. And if that’s the case, when you stumbled throughout something significantly attention-grabbing or one thing that is going to be attention-grabbing on the summit this yr. 

Tim: Yeah. There’s a couple of. There’s a couple of gadgets. I imply, one I am positive you are very acquainted with. It is truly coming for the primary yr for us, is the NeuroVizr.

Ben: Oh. Inform individuals about it. I even have a narrative in regards to the NeuroVizr, however go forward.

Tim: So, principally, it is flashes lights in your eyes if you clearly you will have your eyes, then you definately meditate. I’d examine it with making you will have hallucinations from sure distance, completely different hallucinogens. And, helps you entry completely different psychological states or emotions, I’d say, from taking no substances. And, it principally glints very quick. Some individuals clearly cannot use it due to migraine, being a migraine set off perhaps.

Ben: Epilepsy.

Tim: Yeah. However, it is humorous as a result of I once I first noticed it, I believed, “What a ridiculous system.” Like simply one other system. However, truly, the extra I’ve performed with it and the extra I’ve heard from different individuals about their experiences with it, the extra I spotted truly it is fairly, fairly good system. However, I am intrigued to listen to your ideas on it.

Ben: They despatched me that like their new mannequin a couple of weeks in the past. So, that is sort of prime of thoughts for me. And so, simply individuals know prefer it’s actually like, I do not know if individuals look like a BrainTap earlier than, which is sort of a gentle/sound stimulation machine. However, it is like this visor with a set of sunshine panels. You lay again you, shut your eyes, after which relying on the setting that you just select on the app that accompanies the system, it is perhaps doing a session for creativity, or temper enhancement, or meditation, or deep sleep, or what have you ever. And, many of the classes final round 11 minutes. Though, the app has this cool little function known as Playlist, the place you’ll be able to string a number of classes collectively. If you wish to do like a NeuroVizr session for an hour or no matter. 

So, in any case, like Tim stated, as quickly as you flip the factor on and shut your eyes, it feels such as you’ve taken a heroic dose of psilocybin. I imply, such as you’re simply off on one other planet. And, generally, you may lay there and you may really feel such as you’ve been laying there for like 30 seconds. The 11-minute timer goes off. You are like, “Holy cow! I do not know what simply occurred.” However, it is a full disconnect in a really cool means that may shift the mind into these completely different brainwave states afterwards. So, it is nearly like a priming for the mind relying on what state that you just search. 

So, for instance, my sons are engaged on new card recreation proper now. And, I’ve had them working the creativity session. The place they will identical to drop down for a fast 11-minute NeuroVizr session throughout the day earlier than they go do their drawing and their writing. And, I feel there actually is one thing to it from an enhancement standpoint, relying on what you wish to do. I am not making an attempt to make this sound like an enormous business for NeuroVizr.

However, in any case. So, I’ve considered one of these sound therapeutic tables, Tim. And, the sound therapeutic desk lets you like pull in any audio from a telephone. I imply, you possibly can watch a film by way of your physique when you needed to simply really feel the film soundtrack, somewhat than simply hearken to it. However, the sound desk additionally has a headphone port the place you might be listening to a observe, whereas concurrently having that observe blasted by way of each cell of your physique. So, it is fairly cool. And, my thought was, effectively, the NeuroVizr has all these built-in music tracks that accompany the lights. So, why not hook up the headphones, hook up the NeuroVizr to the sound desk, drop again, and do a session. And, it is stellar. Like, it is tremendous cool. And, it’s extremely, quite simple to drag off. You have got all these sound-handling desk, you simply plug it in. However, you are getting the sunshine, the sound, after which the total physique vibration from the sound all on the similar time. It is a tremendous cool expertise. So, in any case, I’ve had my sons do a couple of, too. And, they’re identical to, they’re enamored with it. It is fairly loopy. 

Tim: There is a model of the desk?

Ben: I’ve sort of like a budget-friendly one. It is most likely the very best one on the market. However, there’s an organization known as BioMat. They’re like a Korean firm. They make these infrared mats. And, I feel they even have like a PMF map. They’ve what’s known as an acoustic remedy mat, so that is the one which I’ve and it is fairly cool. If you wish to experiment with an app like that and feeling. You possibly can do the identical by way of the NuCalm. You are able to do a NuCalm session. And somewhat than simply listening to it, you’ll be able to really feel it by way of your complete physique.

Tim: Alright, good. I will verify these guys out.

Ben: I’d classify that as slightly bit extra like a mind stimulation system, nevertheless it might be used like earlier than a exercise. Such as you had been describing to prime the mind. The rest within the health or the train class that you have come throughout recently?

Tim: Properly, I just like the Airofit nonetheless, and I am unsure if we mentioned this earlier than. 

Ben: Oh, the breath system?

Tim: Yeah. 

Ben: Inform individuals about that one.

Tim: Yeah. So, it is a system you place in your mouth. And, as an alternative of nasal respiratory, clearly, it is mouth respiratory. However, for a couple of minutes a day, it isn’t an issue. It is a lung energy and capability system. So, it offers you completely different challenges in your telephone to convey out for like 10 seconds, and also you’re following the graph. After which, breathe in, after which maintain, after which breathe out. And, it offers you all these completely different workouts. You may see the way you progress by way of lung energy and capability over a time period. It is truly considered one of my favourite gadgets as a result of I feel breathwork, for me, is a kind of issues I actually should push myself to do. Chilly showers or ice baths too, it does not trouble me an excessive amount of. However, for some purpose, one thing to do with respiratory every day in a breathwork session, is difficult for me to encourage myself. However, when I’ve the system and it is on my espresso desk the place I sit within the morning and skim, I choose it up and I do it. 

So, it is truly actually attention-grabbing to see your model lengthy energy and capability enhance over a time period. It is nice for clearly for sports activities. I discovered that once I began utilizing it, that my complications had been considerably higher. My loud night breathing, earlier than I had the laser remedy finished, decreased considerably and I observe my loud night breathing nightly. In addition to once I’m swimming within the sea, as an illustration. I discover I can maintain my breath considerably longer than I used to have the ability to. So, it is nearly like having a brand new physique on the subject of respiratory. And, you’ll be able to see it within the information. 

Ben: Yeah. I truly met them on the summit final yr. And, I’ve a tool. It is up on my mattress stand. And, I do most of my breathwork with my sons. And, by the way in which, for these of you questioning if breathwork ever will get any simpler these first two minutes, it is sort of like a tough exercise. Like, it by no means does. You simply acquired to get by way of the primary two minutes although, after which your physique sort of falls into the routine. However, nonetheless for me, after years of breathwork, like the primary couple minutes, like, “Ah, right here we go.” I get the lungs warmed up, however that is completely regular. And so, yeah, I like that Airofit system.

Now, you talked about I imagine the vagal nerve implications of one thing like breathwork. Have you ever messed round with any of those vagal nerve stimulators? Like, there’s one known as — and such a thoughts. So, my good friend’s acquired a migraine headache that she needed to come over final night time and sleep at our home. And so, this morning, I gave her this factor known as a gammaCore, which you maintain up towards the vagal nerve on the precise facet of the neck for 2 minutes, then the left facet of the neck for 2 minutes, and delivers this gentle electrical sensation that helps to calm quite a lot of the cranial nerves. There’s a number of different gadgets that at the moment are marketed and accessible for private use as vagal nerve stimulators. However have you ever ever messed round any of these, Tim?

Tim: I’ve performed round with a couple of previously. Not this gammaCore one, which I’ll truly try. As a result of I get lots of people speaking about migraines, and it is one thing that my household’s had just about their complete lives. So, I will discover that one. However there’s numerous completely different ones that pop up and round.

Ben: Pulsetto is one other one. Pulsetto, spelled two T’s. That is slightly extra inexpensive than the gammaCore, and it ties to an app in your telephone. You may set for nervousness, for stress, et cetera. A session lasts like 10 minutes. And, that one’s good as a result of it is hands-free. It simply hangs round your neck and also you apply slightly little bit of electro-gel to both facet of the neck. And, that one appears to work fairly effectively. It isn’t fairly as highly effective because the gammaCore, nor do I feel is it like FDA-cleared for complications. Like, the gammaCore is for issues, like cluster complications and migraines. 

However, it is tremendous attention-grabbing. In useful medication, they quite a lot of occasions for trauma remedy, and stress, and nervousness, they will do a stellate ganglion nerve block of the vagus nerve. That means, they actually use like ultrasound-guided imaging and go in to the precise facet of the neck, and sometimes, inject very close to the vagal nerve. One thing like exosomes or a fluid. After which, they will go and do the identical factor on the left facet. And, clearly, you’d need somebody who’s extremely educated to do that as a result of such as you’re proper subsequent to the carotid artery. 

And, in any case, I had my first stellate ganglion nerve block finished by Dr. Matt Prepare dinner a few weeks in the past. And, it’s extremely attention-grabbing. You have got it finished, and instantly, all the physique goes into zen mode. I imply, I sat up from the desk and I felt like I smoked a few joints. And, it was identical to complete pure rest. You possibly can have freaking are available there and insulted my mother, and I simply would have sat there and smiled. Like, the vagal nerve stimulators work, however I would by no means had something like that. Like, a nerve block that simply utterly nearly like reboots the vagal nerve, and the nervous system, and a few of these cranial nerves. It was fairly loopy. I do not know when you’ve ever regarded in a kind of. However, if you have not, it might be cool to have you ever expertise.

Tim: I have not. However, I’ve performed round with a Pulsetto. And, actually, the Pulsetto guys are going to be on the convention.

Ben: Oh, in June.

Tim: I imply, by way of health gadgets truly, there’s truly one system that I actually wish to convey up. I am unsure when you’ve heard of it but, nevertheless it’s known as the Human Regenerator.

Ben: No. Inform me about it.

Tim: Oh, man. 

Ben: It is a terrific title.

Tim: Yeah. It is unbelievable. So, it is principally — they name it well being furnishings or equal, and it is a mattress. It appears like a white, shiny, very luxurious. It is aimed for, you understand, just like the ultra-wealthy, gyms, and golf equipment like in Monaco, and issues like this. 

Ben: Okay.

Tim: Various the large tech founders and CEOs have gotten it. It delivers electrons, three electrons, detrimental ions, and anions. Mainly, if you’re mendacity down on a mattress for half-hour, it produces — the byproduct is a gentle ozone. So, you’ll be able to nearly odor it if you’re on the system. I’d say it is like recharging your mitochondria, recharging each cell in your physique. Now, apparently, it offers off I feel they stated 30,000 volts in an nearly like a sphere round you if you’re mendacity on the mattress. And, in a 30-minute session, it principally is like having daylight and grounding multi function go, charging yourselves inside this electrical discipline.

Ben: Will that be on the expo flooring if individuals wish to attempt it?

Tim: Oh, sure. Oh, sure. 

Ben: Oh, dude. Okay. I will test it out. It sounds very attention-grabbing. You have a look at quite a lot of these multimodal methods, you understand. Like, you understand, the BioCharger, for instance. That you just stand in entrance of and it does infrared gentle, and electromagnetic frequencies, and proper frequencies, and detrimental ions. Or, there’s this new institute out in Lexington, Kentucky. I interviewed the man, Dr. Jeremy Stich. They developed this factor known as the Ammortal Catalyst, which is a tool that sweeps all the physique with PEMF. However then, they’ve like this $150,000 mattress. I feel there’s solely like one proper now. It is that is truly been made. It is in Denver. And, it does hydrogen remedy, ozone, sound remedy, PEMF, infrared gentle. Like, every thing you’d wish to do so far as like a fringe, you understand, restoration or mobile enhancement modality . You realize, there’s like that HOCATT system, which is sort of related, which is like ozone plus PEMF that you just sit inside. 

And, I do not know your ideas on this, Tim, nevertheless it’s very tough with a few of these methods that you just’re doing to say if there’s any human medical analysis behind them. As a result of these items’s very tough to check and I do know there’s most likely a number of scientists simply snickering about these two loopy biohackers experimenting with all these fringe modalities. However, from an anecdotal standpoint, I can let you know quite a lot of these like multimodal beds or gadgets, I feel they’re identical to electrical medication that you may have at house.

Tim: The humorous factor is, that is the place the Human Regenerator is available in. The place science is backing it. It is known as chilly atmospheric plasma, and that is not plasma by way of the blood. And, it is principally anion gasoline. And, it is utilized in a therapeutic modality in a small focal, like as an illustration post-surgery and issues like that. However, what these guys have finished have truly put it onto a whole-body scale. Like, when you have a look at NIH PubMed web site, and have a look at “chilly atmospheric plasma,” and the functions and the implications for it to hurry up the mitochondria and repair a number of well being points, among the extra severe ones, which I can’t point out, it is incredible. And, these guys have simply opened it as much as be a full-body software against focal little space. 

So, once I first heard about it I used to be like huge declare, “I feel it’ll be garbage, however why not.” And, they stated, “Come out and see us. Come and see the manufacturing facility in Germany. We’ll offer you a demo of it. We’ll run by way of the entire science. We’ll present you every thing.” However, I attempted it. I used to be like, “Dude, that is wonderful!” It is truly probably the greatest modalities I feel I’ve used. And, I feel when you mix the human regeneration — this is not an advert for them, by the way in which. I simply I completely like it. And, they’ve simply opened a showroom in London. So, I will be utilizing it weekly from right here on in.

However, when you use the Human Regenerator to recharge your mitochondria, you will have ozone IV to kill off any viruses and help the entire issues you may get from the town or toxicities and issues. After which, the brand new one which like I am pairing with that’s truly blood filtering.

Ben: You imply, like plasmapheresis? 

Tim: Yeah. So, principally, they take your blood out. They separate of the plasma. They filter it. You see what it is collected; i.e. micro plastics and issues. After which, clearly, they put it again in. So, I have been having that in Austria. I feel with the ozone, with the filtering, and The Human Regenerator, I feel you’ve got just about acquired charging and detoxing all wrapped up into three modalities. And, that is my superhuman stack proper now. 

Ben: The attention-grabbing factor is, I am curious when you’re quantifying this. Like, whether or not it’s a blood work, or coronary heart fee variability measurements, and even like a few of these newer getting old clocks. You realize, there’s just like the DunedinPACE clock, or the Horvath’s clock, or something like that. Like, have you ever truly finished any pre-, post-tests to see if it is, a minimum of for you, as an N equals 1 working? 

Tim: Yeah. So, okay. So, first issues first, coronary heart fee variability, I observe on a regular basis, clearly. And, I discovered that after doing the Human Regenerator, particularly, then I acquired about 20% enhance in my coronary heart fee variability. Now, I am a sympathetic dominant kind. So, my coronary heart fee variability tends to be decrease than the parasympathetic dominant.

Ben: Okay.

Tim: Clearly. However, I discovered that my common is sort of double since beforehand. And, that is when utilizing the blood filtering, the Human Regenerator, ozone. So, it has been a big shift for me. And, I feel it is partly as a result of the viral load, traditionally. I had toxoplasmosis and numerous different issues I wanted to cope with. So, I feel that what this has helped me with is simply my physique cope with issues which have been lurking round for a very long time. So, it has been attention-grabbing. So, the opposite factor is lifeblood evaluation. So, seeing my underlying evaluation beforehand. After which, a couple of weeks afterwards, and it appears a lot better. One factor I did be aware from that truly was that though I used to be hydrating correctly, I nonetheless wasn’t hydrated correctly within the blood, the blood cell, and I wanted extra grounding as a result of my crimson blood cells weren’t equidistant. They had been nonetheless clumped collectively a bit an excessive amount of.

So, trying in actual time, sure. By way of blood work, I do the NutrEval, which is definitely my favourite blood take a look at of all. The NutrEval from Genova Labs, which is the metabolomics take a look at. So, you have a look at your self on a mobile degree and see what your deficiencies are.

Ben: Clarify that with the individuals, the NutrEval.

Tim: Yeah. So, NutrEval, principally, appears at you on a mobile degree. It appears on the expression of the cell. So, metabolomics. And so, what that does is it will possibly see what the expression of the cell is and say, “We’re trying on the cell and we see that you’re poor in B12, and here is what it is best to complement by way of a dose to get that cell to the place it ought to be.” Now, the idea is that if your engine is firing appropriately; i.e., it has all of the oil, the water, and whatnot that it must run appropriately, your physique will accomplish that and it’ll heal issues that it has occurring. So, trying on the NutrEval on the mobile degree, as an alternative of trying on the genes what may go unsuitable, or blood work, or urine that issues that are not working fairly proper, trying on a mobile degree, you understand what your physique must function appropriately. So, that is why the NutrEval is my favourite.

Ben: Yeah, I agree. It is a very complete take a look at if you need one thing that goes above and past your fundamental lipid panel, full blood depend, you understand, metabolic panel, et cetera. As a result of it’s going to have a look at issues like fungal markers, upstream and downstream metabolites of sure compounds, amino acid balances, for all of the completely different ratios of amino acids, and it offers you much more perception than a normal blood panel would base on that specific lab. And, that is a blood spot take a look at. So, yeah, I am an enormous fan of the NutrEval, and use it with quite a lot of my shoppers who wish to take a deeper dive. It is attention-grabbing, too. 

I used to be truly performing some analysis final week for considered one of my shoppers whose mother is coping with chemotherapy proper now. And, we’re modalities which have some analysis behind them for growing the cytotoxicity of chemotherapy. And, it seems {that a} most cancers cell that’s both heated or hyper-oxygenated tends to be way more inclined to demise upon chemotherapy radiation or the usage of a few of these chemotherapy medicine. 

And so, most cancers hyperthermia. You realize, I do not know when you’ve regarded into that in any respect. These super-duper sizzling items, means hotter than a sauna. You truly should put on a rectal probe, you understand, that is inserted and then you definately’re making an attempt to get the physique temperature above. I imagine about 107 levels Fahrenheit. That might be one instance of utilizing hyperthermia for most cancers, and there is quite a lot of actually good analysis behind it. However, I wasn’t conscious of that ozone — and never fairly as efficient, however secondarily, hyperbaric oxygen additionally pair actually, rather well with chemotherapy so far as growing the effectivity. Probably, even lowering the quantity of obligatory remedies or the therapy time for one thing like chemo. 

So, whereas I am definitely not a health care provider and I do not need this to be taken as medical recommendation, I feel that even for most cancers sufferers, particularly these present process chemo, trying into a few of these issues like ozone, like hyperbaric, like hyperthermia, primarily based on some issues I used to be studying not too long ago, so it is prime of thoughts, may truly be a good suggestion to a minimum of examine.

Tim: I agree. I agree. I imply, I’ve an enormous background in hyperbaric oxygen remedy. I had London’s first non-public clinic for it again from 2016, which I bought again in 2018, 19. However, the quantity of people who contacted us for most cancers therapy help was fairly insane. However, we had been for biohackers and for well being, not for most cancers sufferers. So, we could not actually take care of them, sadly. However, the purpose is, there may be such an enormous want for it. It is loopy. And, I feel it is a supporting modality to different issues. It is incredible. I imply, a Dr. Scott Sherr, our mutual good friend, is clearly wonderful, wonderful on this precise matter, that I’ve mentioned with him at size.

Ben: Oh, yeah. He is an enormous fan of taking your methylene blue and your nitric oxide precursors, and hopping in hyperbaric, which I feel is it is truly a fairly good technique. So, you understand, we’ve not talked so much about like weight loss plan or dietary supplements or a few of these meal substitute tendencies, et cetera. I feel any individual despatched me a hyperlink to these items. I do not know when you’ve seen it earlier than, Tim. It is this model new fermented milk various known as House Milk. Have you ever seen House Milk earlier than? 

Tim: No, I have not heard of it. 

Ben: I scoffed the identical as you once I first heard about it. Then, I went to I feel the web site was like spacemilk.com. It truly does not look that dangerous. It does not have a bunch of Franken fuels in it. It isn’t just like the Soylent. However, in any case, I believed it was attention-grabbing. It acquired me pondering, “Properly, I ought to ask Tim if there’s any  distributors or of us who’re going to be the knowledgeable individuals you’ve got found recently, who’re performing some cool issues in like both meal substitute or dietary supplements.” As a result of I do know when individuals go to the summit, they’re typically strolling across the expo flooring making an attempt out all these completely different drinks, and brews, and blends, and capsules, and meals, and bars. However, is there something significantly cool you assume that is going to be attention-grabbing this yr?

Tim: By way of meal replacements, a extremely wonderful level you elevate as a result of there’s issues like that is meals firm, and there is H.U.E.L., and all these items. And, individuals come to me and say, “Oh, yeah, I am tremendous wholesome. I eat H.U.E.L.” Within the UK, it is known as human gasoline, H.U.E.L. However, actually, it is acquired cyanocobalamin. As an illustration, B12, which isn’t the lively kind. It is acquired numerous different crap added to it. And, individuals assume they’re having a wholesome meal substitute.

Ben: Most likely, artificial folic acid, I’d think about.

Tim: Precisely, precisely. And, it is like all of them are like this. And, they’re like even a few of my smartest most profitable associates assume that they are doing the precise factor by consuming a few of these plant, these meal replacements had been typically plant milk in them and plant-based. I simply assume there’s such an enormous hole out there for a really, very clear meal substitute and shake with not one of the crap in it. So, that is one thing, you understand, I have not been in a position to supply simply but. 

However, by way of dietary supplements, we have got most likely about eight or 9 completely different complement manufacturers on the convention. We cap it of that sort of degree. As a result of there’s so many accessible, and I do not simply need a convention discipline of dietary supplements. However, we have got SuperBotanicals, that are tinctures, tremendous clear tinctures. So, there’s one from libido, one for sleep, one for meditation, and numerous different issues which is a very nice model. I have been testing for the previous couple of months.

Ben: What is the model?

Tim: SuperBotanicals.

Ben: SuperBotanicals. Okay. And, this is sort of a tincture that you’d put into your mouth and maintain for some time?

Tim: Sure, that is proper. Yeah. And, they’re truly — like each single model on the convention clearly has been vetted by me. And, meaning I’ve examined each single product, or I’ve used each single product, or do use the merchandise which are on the ground. So, that is most likely the most recent child on the block. By way of what I actually do like, and I am unsure when you’re acquainted or have labored on them or not, however Timeline Diet, the urolithin A guys. 

Ben: Yeah, yeah.

Tim: I like their urolithin A complement truly. And, I particularly just like the whey protein. Like, if there’s a meal substitute, it is that.

Ben: Yeah. And, that is identical to a clear whey protein, that they’ve added urolithin A, which is sort of like an age reversal longevity kind of compound that acts as a mobile protectant, repairs DNA slightly bit. It has some mitochondrial enhancement properties. It’s totally attention-grabbing. As a result of you’ll be able to truly make it your self in your intestine from the precise kind of probiotic strains, or a large consumption of a wide range of fermented meals. After which, it’s also possible to produce fairly a bit from quite a lot of the fibers and oils and parts of one thing like wild blueberries. However, from what I perceive, Timeline has sort of like hyper-concentrated it. I’ve a bunch of their stick packs up in my pantry and I will often toss one into my smoothie. However, that is an enormous one for you?

Tim: Yeah. I like it. I imply, it is one factor that I’ve each single day, by way of complement like that. I simply discover that it really works effectively for me. They’ve simply truly despatched me the brand new face cream, morning and night time face cream. And, they stated that it actually helps with tissue regeneration.

Ben: They despatched that to me, too. I began utilizing it final week. Folks make enjoyable of me as a result of I’ve like a complete pantry filled with all these skincare merchandise that get randomly despatched to me. And, you understand, it is like six or one half a dozen the opposite. However, it’s attention-grabbing to place your urolithin A in a pores and skin compound. It appears to make sense, and I feel I checked out slightly little bit of the analysis on their web site, and does not look half dangerous. It is clearly a clear cream or lotion. 

And, you speak in regards to the meal substitute factor, Tim. It is humorous as a result of, you understand, I’ve a dietary supplements firm, KION. And, we’re like tremendous easy over there, proper? We select actually good elements, however we attempt to make dietary supplements that are not tremendous fancy. Not all these loopy formulations and issues that may be tough to supply, and maintain in stack, and search out uncooked elements for. 

However, I keep in mind a couple of years in the past, I truly regarded into formulating a meal substitute that due to its complexity and weirdness and the uphill battle with the flavour profile as you may be aware as quickly as I clarify what it’s. We did not actually convey it to market. You may make it your self. It is important amino acids. I attempted to get as shut to love the composition of breastmilk as potential, with slightly bit of additional fatty acids and proteins. However, you place this right into a blender on ice. You do a pair scoops of amino acids, like 10 grams or so of amino acids. Then, you add colostrum. After which, you utilize ketones as a result of truly — or you possibly can use MCT oil powder as effectively. After which, you utilize like a extremely good monounsaturated fats supply. Like, an olive oil, or an avocado oil, or a macadamia nut oil, or what have you ever. About tablespoon of that, a pair scoops of aminos, a pair scoops of colostrum, after which, like round 30, 45 mil of those ketone esters. And, you mix all that with ice. And, there is a low-hanging fruit and an thought for anyone who desires to get into a posh meal substitute formulation thought. However, I would definitely log off on that one. I’ve finished it a couple of occasions. And, I imply contemplating you’ve got acquired like in an enormous smoothie bowl, like perhaps 200 energy. And, it is satisfying a ton of various wants throughout the board, which might be wonderful too when you’re making an attempt to shed pounds and never have high-calorie consumption. That is my meal substitute mix thought.

Tim: That sounds wonderful. I imply, with the colostrum, to be sincere. I like that stuff. We have truly acquired a model that is doing an excellent clear grass-fed colostrum on the convention this yr. However, one of many dietary supplements I do wish to give a shout-out to, or ought to I say speak about proper now, is the Bio-regulators. So, there is a model known as, I feel it is Profound Well being. They do thymus gland. They do prostate gland. They do kidneys. They do liver. They do crimson blood cell. They do bone marrow. Like, Bio-regulators are — clearly, peptides are very regulated.

Ben: Bio-regulatory peptides, yeah. 

Tim: Precisely, yeah. So, peptides, by way of injectables within the UK, aren’t allowed but aside from for analysis functions. However, Bio-regulators, that are the capsule formulation are incredible. So, I have been testing these for a couple of months now. I actually just like the Bone Marrow one. My physique went in muscle testing. Kinesiology appears to actually just like the Bone Marrow one, particularly. So, I’ve used that one quite a bit. It is one of many thrilling manufacturers for me on the convention truly this yr as a result of I needed a bio-regulated model for a very long time.

Ben: Yeah. I do not know when you heard my interview with Phil Micans, who’s studied up on quite a lot of the work from Russia. Specifically, the work of Dr. Khavinson on the decreased all-cause danger of mortality and a really spectacular age reversal ends in each rodent and human fashions. With the usage of these bio-regulatory peptides, most likely probably the most well-known being epitalon, or epithalon, rely the way you wish to pronounce it. And, primarily based on what I’ve seen in my discussions with Phil, with Dr. Prepare dinner, with a couple of others within the peptide neighborhood. I’ve finished for the previous two years, twice a yr, a 10-day stint of peptides. Should you do all of them, each oral one. You are the one for the thymus, for the liver, for the gonads, for the spleen, for the pancreas, et cetera, it is equal about 30 capsules a day. 

However, though you’ll be able to’t do it over there within the UK, right here within the U.S., there’s a couple of corporations which have a liquid injectable the place it is all in liquid. And, the peptides do not intervene with each other. They’re all blended collectively. And, you simply draw up a syringe with about 50 ccs in saline water, and also you simply inject that after like subcutaneously across the abs for 10 days. It isn’t a kind of issues the place you are feeling like 1,000,000 bucks straight away, however you are sort of like quite a lot of the longevity information and seeing what occurs from a mitochondrial, and the telomere shortening, and a methylation clock standpoint. There’s like nearly 40 years of analysis in Russia on this stuff. But, they’re simply now hitting the U.S. It appears like they’re sort of new within the UK as effectively. However, oral or injectable bio-regulatory peptides, I feel is a completely wonderful thought. 

Tim: I feel they seem to be a game-changer, personally. As with peptides, typically. I imply, it’ll problem the pharmaceutical business within the coming years. I feel as soon as a bit extra launch. 

Ben: The FDA is being slightly bit naughty about it over right here. They do not like peptides very a lot, so it is sort of tough.

Tim: Yeah, it is a disgrace. However, I imply I do assume that after they’re regulated and correctly pharma manufactured and whatnot, I feel it’ll be an excellent factor for the world when they’re. However, within the meantime, the Bio-regulators are nice. I am very proud of them. I imply, I used to be testing a number of peptides at one level. Certainly one of them was KPV, which was an anti-fungal for my — I had a mildew concern in my house. And so, clearing that out, and I discovered that that actually smacked me across the face. I needed to be very cautious with it. However, usually, they’re nice. However, that once more, that is an injectable. The Bio-regulators in capsules are really easy, and I would discover them to be tremendous efficient.

Ben: Yeah. I imply like, it is sort of the identical thought behind like organ glandulars. Like, there’s corporations over right here within the U.S. like Ancestral Dietary supplements. You realize, about like a bottle of powdered thyroid, or a bottle of powdered liver, pancreas, or spleen. And, some individuals scoff at this concept of like helps. Like, when you eat a particular organ, it goes on to nourish the goal organ within the physique. However, they’ve truly finished amino acid tracer research on a few of these glandulars and confirmed that the peptide fragments truly wind up within the precise organs in important quantities primarily based on the glandular extract. I have not seen related research for the bio-regulatory peptides. I am positive they exist. Most likely, in Russian literature. However, primarily based on the truth that these are fragments which are means shorter than identical to consuming the glandular, it is sort of like a hyper-concentrated model. I’d not be shocked if the identical factor is occurring with the peptides.

And, talking of peptides, by the way in which, you speak about KPV one, which can also be wonderful for ache and irritation. However, one which my spouse and I’ve been experimenting with slightly bit on date nights, it is a troche. Really, I simply have a health care provider and he calls into the compound pharmacist. And, I simply have it set as much as my home as a troche. However, it is amorphine, which is sort of prefer it’s a disinhibitory kind of compound. It sort of makes you all loosey-goosey and touchy-feely. Very related one thing like oxytocin. After which, he compounds that with tadalafil, which is, after all, the lively vasodilating part of Viagra, and PT-141, which is just like the king of libido enhancing, like intercourse machine peptides. 

And, if my spouse and I take a kind of troches about half hour to dinner on a date, by the point the date’s over, we will not maintain our fingers off one another for like an excellent six to seven hours. Like, it is loopy. So, clearly, not one thing you utilize each day. However, that stuff is wonderful. The one facet impact being, after all, you do not sleep effectively when you’re a dude due to the extreme plasmic impact of the PT-141. However, when you can overcome the results of pitching a tent all the night time you are asleep, that is truly a fairly good stack. PT-141, amorphine in Tadalafil. 

Tim: I’d love an intro. 

Ben: Okay, I am simply going to say his title as a result of now his telephone’s most likely going to explode. However, it is Dr. Mike Main, down in Phoenix. He compounds it for me. Like, he gave me one as soon as. Informed me to attempt it out on a date night time. I am like, “Dude, the place can I get extra of those? These are wonderful.” 

So, so far as the summit itself goes, anything you assume goes to be significantly attention-grabbing there? That you just’re enthusiastic about? Whether or not from an experiential standpoint. Like, any of the events, or breakouts, or dinners, or audio system, or distributors, or something like that?

Tim: One factor I acquired to say is, it’ll be the most important one but. So, that is primary. We have got extra individuals than we have ever had earlier than. So, we’re searching for 2,000. We’ve on the right track for two,500 biohackers, and there is 120 manufacturers, which is so it is like almost 30% greater than final time. So, it’ll be an even bigger expertise. We have got a facet occasion taking place in Piccadilly Circus on the Thursday for our title sponsor, which is the Monk Ice Tub. I am unsure when you noticed that final yr or not. Then, we’ll have breathwork, ice bathtub, sauna, and the entire experiential facet of issues.

Ben: What’s Piccadilly Circus?

Tim: Within the middle of London the place the large lights are.

Ben: Yeah.

Tim: On the nook, principally, we’re hiring that house there. So, we have got that on the Thursday for a facet occasion. So, it is a very nice facet occasion occurring there. The Friday night time is the VIP expertise for the audio system, and the VIPs within the night. It is my favourite half, truly. After which, over the weekend, we have got a Saturday night time occasion on the venue. After which, Sunday, down at wind down occasion afterwards. And, I feel truly, you are doing a Monday occasion as effectively, over on the Human Lab, I feel.

Ben: Yeah. I feel we’re like a facet biohacking occasion over there, too. So, there’s loads of excuses to go to London. It is June sixteenth by way of the 18th, proper, Tim?

Tim: That is proper. Yeah, 16 by way of 18. 

Ben: Yeah. I like to recommend when you’re within the space. You realize, what’s humorous. I do know that you just posted to your social media, Tim, asking if anyone had questions. I do not know if we’ll have time to get to lots of them at this time. However, I noticed one query that got here by way of was, “What are the alternatives and dangers related to utilizing AI for well being optimization and knowledge?” I do not know when you’ve got any ideas about that. Possibly when you’re noodling on that. 

I, truly previous to coming over to London for this upcoming summit, I take advantage of GPT and I feel you are placing me up with just like the King’s Cross Resort or one thing like that. I requested it for an excellent 2-mile strolling itinerary for every day with each cease that I may make alongside the way in which to see London tradition. Locations that weren’t actually vacationer traps, however that quite a lot of the locals frequented. I requested to offer me a one- to two-paragraph abstract of the which means and the historical past behind every cease. After which, additionally, suggest a restaurant with good native farm-to-table fashion, natural meals, for every night time primarily based upon that strolling itinerary. 

And so, inside like 60 seconds, it had spit out what I’d usually pay a journey agent like, you understand, a 1,000 bucks to create for me all proper there, printable, total strolling itinerary for London, which is fairly attention-grabbing. Not that I wish to put any journey brokers out of a job. Hopefully, this simply permits journey brokers to scale what they do way more successfully. And, by utilizing the precise prompts to do quite a lot of good for his or her present shoppers. However, what do you concentrate on the emergence of AI and GPT, and the place which may tie into what you are doing with well being optimization or biohacking?

Tim: I feel the appliance for it will be wonderful after they enable it for simply discussing medical phrases or medical issues. Not that we sit essentially within the medical facet of issues, however something that chat thinks is medical-esque, it says we will not diagnose. However, I heard final week that truly that they used AI to offer it a load of signs that somebody was having. And, it efficiently recognized a 1 in 100,000 likelihood, appropriately recognized somebody’s situation. 

So, I’d say, when you’re looking round for a health care provider sooner or later and also you can not seem to unravel what you’ve got acquired occurring, you understand, Chat AI as an illustration can have a look at every thing and provide the odds of what it might be. So, I feel that it is probably large for the long run. However, I do assume contemplating who owns it and that it isn’t permitting medical analysis or help proper now, that it might be restricted from doing so.

Ben: Proper. That of privateness and safety points are the principle concern for me. Clearly, when you’re utilizing GPT often to diagnose well being points. Properly, when you’re like me, your well being data largely on the market in public in any case. There’s all of the lab checks and stuff I push out on-line. However, for the typical one who desires privateness safety, it is best to proceed with warning. It is sort of like self-googling or utilizing Dr. Google however on steroids. Notably, when you use these newer autonomous brokers, which principally use GPT-4. And, you may inform it one thing like no matter, “I’ve a wierd progress on my proper forearm,” and it will go down this deep rabbit gap. I will let you know, it’s going to say, “Okay. The 1st step. We will take an image of this, and do that, this and this. Subsequent, I would like you to put in this browser extension, and this app to your telephone, that are going to assist you to add this in high-pixel format in order that AI can take a more in-depth have a look at it.” After which, “The following step is here is the checklist of various telemedicine specialists who’re linked to those apps who can assist you.” Like, it actually is like placing the pc to be just right for you, which is fairly wonderful. 

After which, I assume from much less of a GPT state standpoint, a few of these new voice and video recognition applied sciences, like there’s one I have been messing round with known as AmaTone. They originated with analysis on the power to have the ability to diagnose or early detect COVID, and it is all primarily based on voice signature information. And now, it is to the purpose the place it will possibly detect sure deficiencies. sure areas of muscular tightness. And, I elevate an eyebrow on it, and I did a couple of completely different AmaTone evaluation and it correlated with nearly 100% accuracy to signs, to bloodwork, to muscle tightness, to areas of earlier damage. It is nuts! 

After which, an identical system known as the Attune. Makes use of face recognition blood circulate know-how to take a look at HRV, blood strain, coronary heart fee, stress ranges, and mind wave patterns primarily based on a video evaluation that takes like 90 seconds of your face. So, I feel a few of these new applied sciences sort of like that’ll tricorder in Star Trek, that actually can be utilized out of your telephone through your voice and video evaluation to detect and determine completely different signs and medical points. Generally, in a really preventive style. It is intriguing. I feel we’re sort of simply on the cusp of all of the completely different know-how that is going to be at our fingertips. Once more, just like a journey agent, to not put a health care provider out to have a job, however to as an alternative hopefully enable medical doctors to exit and do even higher issues with probably slightly bit of additional time on their fingers. You realize, like discovering the remedy for most cancers or no matter.

Tim: Think about we may match it in Oura information, or MyFitnessPal, or latest bloodworks, or microbiome, you understand, or latest signs, and it recognized from a 360 is a lot better than any physician or any useful practitioner, any standalone take a look at may do. It is fairly loopy, is not it?

Ben: Yeah. It’s fairly spectacular. So, I do know that, gosh, when you guys are listening, you wish to come geek out with a bunch of individuals and identical to speak about these items at events until you are blue within the face, and go to some wonderful meetup occasions, try all these expo flooring devices, lay in that cool overpriced mattress Tim was speaking about, and every thing else, come to the summit. 

I will hyperlink to every thing that Tim and I talked about within the shownotes at BenGreenfieldLife.com/TimGray2. I acquired like a hyperlink and a code for individuals to avoid wasting on a ticket. I neglect what it’s, however I will put that in there. Or you’ll be able to go to BenGreenfieldLife.com/calendar if you wish to try the London occasions and every thing I am as much as over there, and get a reduction on both a VIP ticket or one of many common tickets. However, it might be cool to see quite a lot of podcast listeners come out. And, Tim and I’ll each be there. So, you’ll be able to come say hello to us and speak to us about any questions you will have from this podcast. Listening to 2 loopy dudes speak in regards to the unproven biohacking modalities that I hope there’s sometime get proved by science, proper?

Tim: For positive. They’re taking place one after the other.

Ben: Yeah, yeah. Properly, superior, Tim. Properly, it is at all times a pleasure speaking to you. And, I assume I will see you in what? Lower than two months or so.

Tim: Yeah, in six weeks, mate. 

Ben: Alright, cool. Properly, of us. Thanks for listening in. I am Ben Greenfield, together with the good Tim Grey from the Well being Optimization Summit in London. Once more, shownotes are at BenGreenfieldLife.com/TimGray2. Spelled with an A, TimGray, the quantity two. Thanks for listening and have a tremendous week.

Alright, of us. It is arising fast. VIP occasion with me that happens throughout the time that I’m in London for the Well being Optimisation Summit. I am throwing in a personal VIP meetup at HUM2NLabs with Dr. E over there. This is likely one of the most superior biohacking services I’ve ever stepped foot into. We’re opening as much as a choose group of VIPs, very small group. You possibly can be considered one of them. Kicks off at 5:30 p.m. in London on Monday, June nineteenth. You are going to get to community with me and a bunch of the opposite biohacking fans and physicians there. We’ll do a particular speak on age reversal. There will be a Q&A of number of wholesome natural meals, biohack cocktails, a swag bag, the place you get to attempt IV cryotherapy, crimson gentle remedy, hyperbaric oxygen, several types of nootropics, and sensible medicine that they’ve there. So, it’ll be a fairly cool occasion. 

And, you may get in now when you go to BenGreenfieldLife.com/HUM2NLondon. That is BenGreenfieldLife.com/HUM2NLondon. If that is a lot so that you can keep in mind, simply go to BenGreenfieldLife.com/calendar, and all over the place I am going that I am talking the place you’ll be able to be a part of me. All of the occasions are additionally there on the calendar at BenGreenfieldLife.com/calendar. However this HUM2N Occasion Monday, June nineteenth goes to be an excellent one. 

Ben:  Greater than ever lately, individuals such as you and me want a contemporary entertaining, well-informed, and infrequently outside-the-box method to discovering the well being, and happiness, and hope that all of us crave. So, I hope I have been in a position to do this for you on this episode at this time. And, when you appreciated it or when you love what I am as much as, then please go away me a assessment in your most popular podcast listening channel wherever that is perhaps, and simply discover the Ben Greenfield Life episode. Say one thing good. Thanks a lot. It means so much.

Tim Grey is the UK’s Main Biohacker and Founding father of the Well being Optimisation Summit (use code BENGREENFIELD to avoid wasting 10% off common and VIP tickets). As a psychology specialist and a profitable businessman, Tim based and invested in a number of 7-figure companies, together with digital advertising and marketing businesses and London’s first non-public Hyperbaric Oxygen Clinic.

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